ThankYou Points Redux: $1,400 Still Possible

Last week I wrote a post about the Citi ThankYou Premier card, which comes with a 50,000 point bonus. Now, those points are valuable enough on their own for $665 in free travel on any airline, flights that will still earn you elite and redeemable miles and don’t require the hassle of finding award space. But Citi also provides something called “flight points” that are awarded whenever you book a plane ticket and pay for it with the card. If you book a $300 fare from SFO to EWR, you’ll get ThankYou points as usual plus 5,131 flight points. And these flight points can be converted into more ThankYou points, promising a much larger potential bonus.

The catch is that flight points can only be converted to ThankYou points at a specific ratio based on how many ThankYou points you already have, and I had incorrectly assumed this was determined when the points were redeemed. So if you wanted to redeem 10,000 ThankYou points, I thought you could redeem 5,000 ThankYou points and 5,000 flight points. Since flight points are so easy to get if you’re a frequent traveler, this can be a problem. But the huge 50,000 ThankYou point bonus makes this a non-issue. Combined you could in theory get over 100,000 total points redeemable for free travel–about $1,400 worth at 1.33 cents per point.

But sadly this was not to be. I posted a correction later that day when several people pointed out that flight points are in fact converted into ThankYou points, and that this conversion happens as new ThankYou points are earned. In the meantime the flight points sit in an invisible account. So if you have 5,000 flight points already and spend $2,000 that month, you’ll get 4,000 ThankYou points: the 2,000 you would have through spend and another 2,000 of converted flight points. If you spend $6,000, you’ll get 11,000 ThankYou points: the 6,000 you would have through spend and all 5,000 of converted flight points. This made the deal a bit of a dud. You could improve your return a little bit, but for the most part you could not take advantage of the bonus to convert all these easy flight points. (Although I still think it’s a great offer for free travel either way.)

The Return of Flight Points

But wait! Reader kyunbit posted a cryptic message suggesting that, in fact, my original math may have been correct.

It is actually possible to get much more than this $731.

I followed up by email and learned that you can take advantage of the flight point conversion rules by delaying the time the bonus points are awarded. The trick is to book very long but cheap flights immediately after receiving the card but without tipping the spending threshold to receive the 50,000 point sign-up bonus. If you receive the card in January, fly as much as you can in January and February by purchasing tickets with your Citi ThankYou Premier card. But do not spend more than your spending threshold for earning the bonus, generally $2,500 according to most offers. Also, the flight points are awarded only after travel, so you need to actually fly before the end of the billing period. Then, in March, spend a few dollars more to reach the threshold and earn your bonus ThankYou points.

Apparently the system doesn’t discriminate between ThankYou points earned through purchases or as a sign-up bonus, but it does care that the flight points were there first. So by going about things this way, all your accumulated flight points will be converted into additional ThankYou points once the bonus is awarded. You CAN get $1,400 worth of free travel! All you have to do is be careful and how and when you use your card during the first few months.

I’m sure someone is going to point out how I’m all wrong again, but I’m getting used to that… ;)

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  • Gene

    One more little secret –  if you pay taxes on award tickets with your Citi TY Premier Card, the miles flown on the award ticket will post as flight points.

    • thesdp

      So if I fly a 16,000 mile trip, on an award fare, but paid $600 in taxes (with any airline), I’d get 16,000 flight points + 600 TY points?

      • Gene

        @ thesdp — Yes.

    • lu

      What about United $2.5 charge for a reward ticket?

      • Scottrick

        I believe this is what Gene was referring to.

    • Scottrick

      I am not familiar with this trick, but I would imagine that any amount paid in relation to the trip will earn you flight points. If you check your credit card statement, you’ll often find that the entire trip itinerary is spelled out for each person. My guess is that Citi is using this information to calculate distance. It apparently isn’t able to determine what the purchase was for (fare or taxes or both).

      • Gene

        Also works if you use gift cards (think AA gift cards from Costco) for most of your ticket and charge $.01 to your Citi TY card!

  • dhullan@gmail.com

    There is another way to do this say you only needed to take a short but expensive trip well. On Delta but im sure on other airlines with 24 cancellation rule you you can buy a long cheap flight and then exchange it for the short expensive one you actually need to take and but any difference in fare on a different car should you choose. The original charge will not be refunded so it will look as if you flew the long cheap trip. Infact you could use this trick to book flights so they appear in January per the example but then change the tickets within 24hr to flights after January all free of charge :-)

  • Crismanila

    Hi I just spent 2500 in my Thank You Card by booking a SFO-SCL tix for 2200 via AA in December + some other daily spends, would I be able to accrue flight points on top of the 50K thank you points I will be receiving after I take the flight this coming December? I’m still confused with how this works. Thank you.

    • Scottrick

      My understanding is you would receive the flight points in December or January after your flight. If you earn 2000 flight points (example) you would then need to spend enough to earn 2000 ThankYou points in January or February. The flight points would then convert to additional ThankYou points.

  • Hao L

    Can you book the airfaire via any method so long as you pay for it with the Citi TYP card? Ie does it have to be directly via an airline like United or can you use Expedia, etc?

    • Scottrick

      I think any method is fine. I don’t remember any rules that you have to book through Citi’s portal.

  • http://www.batteredluggage.com/ W Brian Duncan (aka IPBrian)

    Interesting…its also worth pointing out flight points don’t post automatically, you have to forward your itinerary to Citi (which I didn’t realize on my flight to CDG)…I can see where this could however be accomplished with the proper timing.  Sadly I didn’t time it that well.  

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  • cory

    Hi guys. Where would I need to forward my itinerary to for the flight points? I’m thinking of booking some flights with United Miles and using the trick here. Also, can I do this is my other friend is flying up from elsewhere with her AA miles and I pay for the ticket even though it has her name on it?

    • Scottrick

      I was under the impression it was automatic, but if you want to confirm with Citi, I would call them for information on how this works. The flight points system is not as transparent as the rest of the program. Just don’t tell them it’s for an award flight. ;) I’m not sure if you can still get points for a ticket flown by someone else. Generally my CC statements include the passenger’s name, and I think the benefit is limited to the primary cardholder.